Koreans Debate on Privacy vs. Public Health [Street Interview] | ASIAN BOSS

In efforts to prevent the spread of COVID-19, many governments are releasing information about confirmed patients as to where they’ve been and who they’ve been in contact with. Some people have argued that this is a breach of privacy while others say that it is for the greater good of public health. We asked South Koreans what they think about this issue. 

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  1. If you want to bring this discussion further you can check out our new community app called Mogao. Here you can exchange your thoughts and opinions with other intellectually-curious people from all over the world.
    If you’re sick of mainstream social media and wanted to be a part of a super positive & informative online community for a change, then download our app:
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  2. 방역 잘하고

    있었는데…

    우한 다녀온..

    파수꾼에게

    감염된…

    31번 여자 환자가…

    의사가 두번이나..

    검사 받으라구 했는데…

    거부하고…

    신천지 집회 참석 2번,

    서울에 있는 뷔폐 가기,

    파수꾼 역활 하여서…

    코로나19가 퍼졌다…

    🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯😤😤😤😤😤😤🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯😤😤😤

  3. Make it voluntary, personally i rather take precautionary measures and not obliterate my privacy in exchange with a fake sense of security. The fact that so many people think it’s a good idea to have the government controlling this much information is crazy to me…

  4. South korea has been very developed and their maintaining of hygiene is beyond level in compare to other countries.
    South korea has always been best. They are well disciplined and maintain law and order efficiently so far.
    ❤❤

  5. I think a temporary (cannot stress the word temporary enough) exposure of information is fine. It eliminates possible spreads. It’s much better than what we have here in the US

  6. as an American, I absolutely praise their tactics in handling the situation. people here are getting out of hand with these protests and still refusing to stay inside. what’s so hard about understanding the situation? unfortunately, we don’t have a person that respectfully and intelligently leads the country.

  7. Privacy is too important of a right for people to give up, transparency is great for major corporations and governments if it doesn’t hurt anyone. The best compromise is that the release of information is VOLUNTARY or to anonymize the data so that it can’t be linked back to specific people.

    People by default right now should be acting as if everyone within their vicinity has the virus.

  8. South Korea actually has some of the strictest privacy laws in the world. Without getting into much detail, here’s why Korea’s contact tracing isn’t a privacy violation in most countries, such as the US (only because I am an American):

    – Collection of personal data (the name, age, nationality, address and enabled location tracking) is through disclosure and consent. To use healthcare services, you will have to provide personal details to use the service. Americans are also quite adopted in providing private information in return for a service beyond healthcare. For example, name, address, credit card information, shopping history, browsing history, click-through rates, time spent on browsing products, etc., are all collected by Amazon or any e-commerce retailer. This type of information is also provided to the government, such as the IRS or any local government service (e.g., DMV). Disclosure and consent is a fairly tool to collect personal information around the world. In general, Koreans and Europeans must opt-in to use a service; Americans must opt-out. This is a third element of privacy regulation, which is “choice”. This makes privacy regulations in Korea or Europe much stricter. That being said, special regulations were enacted in Korea where a patient has no choice in response to a pandemic – they can only “consent” in using a service, such as getting tested. However, as an American, this is no big deal because American by default, have no “choice” to begin with under most American healthcare regulations, such as HIPAA.

    – Personal data is not shared or disclosed. In my time in Korea a few months ago, details on age, sex, nationality and location were displayed on apps. However, this information is not sufficient to identify a person. This is called Personally Identifiable Information (PII). You really can’t figure out if it was John’s mom that caught the coronavirus based on those data sets alone.

    Here’s where it can be improved:

    – No need to disclose age, sex or nationality. These three attributes are dangerously close, where in aggregate, could identify a person.

    – In Europe, the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR), for instance, provides mechanisms for personal information to be deleted upon request; my understanding that is that there no way for a patient to validate whether the government or any third party entity has deleted their records in South Korea.

  9. if it wasn’t clear, the data is ANONYMOUS so infringement of privacy is kept to a minimum while providing valuable information to the public. it lets you know if you ought to get tested if the information suggests you crossed paths with someone infected with the virus.

    in the end, whose rights were better protected? those locked down in the west or those continuing life as usual in Korea?

  10. To all the countries that uphold privacy over public health, and even went so far as to criticize Korea’s policies in the beginning,
    Y’all do what you gotta do.
    We Korea will do what we’ve been doing.
    We can obviously see how things are turning out today.
    Koreans roam the streets while y’all are placing every citizen in lockdowns.

  11. This all happend because of the 31st patient who is a member of cult church called Shincheonji. The cult group went to China and spread all the viruses in Daegu where it got the highest number of confirmed cases in Korea – nearly 7,000 cases out of 10,780 cases total now. So this virus is from China and we have nothing to do with Covid19. Shincheonji and China are liable for all damage!!!

  12. I’m Asian so I can emphatize with the feeling. My government also introduced similar app. My state even used a digital tracker for those under compulsory quarantine. Genersl public is updated almost everyday.

  13. China, Korea and Japan – countries with a deep routed fear of authority and a high level of civil obedience.
    A cultural sphere where the boundaries of justified criticism and the notion of personal insult are fluent? where “social harmony” is defined by the absence of dissent, all act and do and think within the same boundries. No Marx, no Lenin, no Benjamin Franklin no Rosa Luxemburg, no Bonaparte and no Gandhi will ever come from Japan, Korea or China. These countries and their deep and broad social conditioning and centralized authoritarian structures are the global elite’s wet dream and a model for our Brave Flu World Order Covid1984. Obedient, fearful and uncritical describe 99% of my students from China, Korea and Japan in 20 years as a university lecturer.

  14. One important thing to take away from this video that’s not overtly expressed here is the Korean peoples faith and trust in their government to act in the peoples best interest. This is how the government has been able to collect and coordinate the use of so much personal data which played a huge part of how Korea is able to combat Covid-19 better than anyone else on the planet has.

    As an American I can tell you with complete certainly that that kind of trust in our government simply does not exist here.

  15. If a right crashes another right, we have to compare their priorities, I think. Korean constitutional court talk about the priorities of rights most times in case of claim of violation of constitution. Ex, they decided parliament and local governments ban smoking in public place is not violation of constitution, because right of hating smoke(혐연권) is a right of survive(생존권), right to smoke(흡연권) is a right of pursuit of happiness(행복추구권), Right of survive is much more important, that was the logic. They said the right of survive is the base of all rights, so that is the ultimate right. I don’t know other countries court is same but I agree with basics.

    If the government wants limits your privacy for other people’s survive in clear situations, Korean constitutional court just say it isn’t violation of constitution, if that based on act. Because others life is more important than your right of personal life. Of course not everytime, but parliament can make the decision. I think every country have to make a decision. You have to understand if you don’t like that, your people die. Just choice but never easy. Korean is same. We(South Korean or it’s representatives) choose, and most of we agree with that.

  16. They should at least just tell where the infectee have been going why do you need to show them their house? You can just send some medicals there and just spray the house plus the part of the name of the person and stuff can be debatable I wish my country just tell which place they have been going

  17. I’m not hearing where actual privacy is invaded. I think this is reasonable and intelligent as people have the tendency to be forgetful…so daily reminders during this worldwide pandemic, supported by statistics and other data et al, can promote more individual responsibility and is a pattern for the US to follow. Preservation of lives should always come first!

  18. I’ve seen korean vlogs that shows The New Normal to them and it’s amazing how this country responded to this virus. Hands down to their government, healthcare, disciplined citizens. Honestly my country Philippines could never…. sigh

  19. I don’t understand why western ppl are so neurotic about ✌privacy✌problem. I mean, what is the purpose of protecting privacy like in this situation?? innocent people are dying because they don’t know anything about like when they contact patients, when the patients had visited specific point…etc. if someone got the COVID-19, but don’t want to reveal their trace, that’s selfish. not a privacy problem.
    protecting privacy only has a meaning when people around you are alive in safety.
    of course, privacy is important, but some situation we have to make a compromise ourselves with protecting privacy.

    +) and talking about ‘contact tracing’, western media keep reporting the wrong information. Korea Gov never reveals patients’ specific information. only Gender, Age like basic information are opened to the public.

  20. It’s a slippery slope because it leads to the erosion of our civil liberties. If we willingly sacrifice our ability to go about our business without being spied on, it changes the way that people behave because they know that they are being monitored. And this is how all authoritarian governments rise to power if you look at it historically. People submitting to big governments that eventually take full control.

  21. I am an American citizen who is really scared of this crisis Pandemic! I wish we have Korea government system with app, testing & tracing to be safe with great results! It’s better i am safe as well as others than being scared every single day to see thousands of people confirmed cases & hundreds died! First thing first! What’s first? Privacy or take a chance to die?

  22. I don’t think the tracking app would ever happen in the US, but I think that is cutting off our noses to spite our face. Americans don’t want to give up personal freedoms or comfort for the benefit of the common good. And the price we pay for that will be the economy suffering for years to come.

  23. I think other countries should make people use an app after coming back from being abroad. I agree with the system that once they’re at their country’s airport they should get the app, be tracked on their movements (lack there of actually since they should be staying at home) and have to update how they’re feeling for two weeks. I don’t think other countries governments should trust that all people will quarantine because not all of them will. I’ve seen people in my neighbourhood disobeying the rules of quarantine after they got back from being abroad.

  24. Due to the MERS(other virus), South Korea experienced how much our society was ruined by fears caused by the invisible virus. This privacy policy is a lesson from experience

  25. I think that since America began with a rebellion, it’s been part of our culture to be “free,” often to our own detriment, and as evidenced by all the protests being staged for reopening the American economy with little heed to the danger of a second wave of infection. I’m wondering how many of those who gathered in protest will be in hospital in a fortnight.

  26. Asian Boss, as usual your street interviews are very compelling! South Korean citizens are to be admired for stating their convictions, both political and personal. It is very difficult not to have an emotional response during the current outbreak, but with calm intentions, they approach this problem with gratitude for what their government has provided. I find more research on my part is needed for this phenomenon since my only frame of reference is the USA. I am quite intrigued. Perhaps I am viewing something cultural. In that case, I’m not sure if I will ever understand it, but I want to. Through your great content, you never fail to impress me with the way your channel has covered the pros and cons of issues. KUDOS!!! Love you guys!!

  27. 1:43 There was an earlier case where the “anonymous” data allowed acquaintances of a female patient to easily pinpoint when and where she had spent the night with her boyfriend. The collection and public release of said information did not even legally require the patient’s consent. I’d like to think the later change in policy to releasing more obfuscated data might have had something to do with that fiasco.

  28. South Korea is not only probably one of the best countries in the way they have handled this, but they seem very selfless. I follow other bloggers and they not only wear a mask in public, but they’re grocery stores are fully stocked and no one is panic buying things. It’s also safe and the crime rate there is very low. Living in the US can be very frustrating when people forget about others and their wellbeing. Not only are people out protesting for their so called freedom but they’re risking their health and the health of others.

  29. If you are infected, you have 2 choices.
    Protect your 2-week credit card history, or save someone who got virus from you.
    That is easy like A-B-C.

  30. This is legit the best way to deal with things… we’ve been in a lockdown for over a month in India already… and they’ve extended it more by 2 weeks… makinging it nearly 2 months… and only a few places had such transparent testing and tracing (p.s. my mother works in that state) but even there now its slowly going to worse…

  31. This is what happens when you take money from Bill and Melinda Gates Asian Boss. A bunch of paid shills leaving ingenuine, uneducated, and misleading comments with false information the comment section. Good job Asian Boss. You sold out. Congrats. Unsubscribed.

  32. I salute You in Korea for taking on the ongoing pandemic (Covid-19) so intelligently and effective. Could only wish, that my countrys (Sweden) official responsible persons and departements could visit You and LEARN how-to. Sadly, such a thing will never happen, as the people in charge here are ‘Gods’ and 100% untouchable vs anything that they haven’t come up with. Really, really sad !

  33. Koreans are surprisingly more like American’s in general when asked about priorities between public health and personal privacy. As to our distrust of our Government, America, unlike Korea, doesn’t have 950,000 brainwashed foreign soldiers threatening to march cross our border at a moments notice. Nor do American’s have mandatory military service to strongly tie us to our government or each other.

  34. Westerners: It is a violation of privacy to disclose the gender, age and movements of 10,000 confirmed patients.
    Meanwhile Lockdown is invading privacy of all people in their country.

  35. How lucky that publishing one’s gender, age and daily route isn’t enough to figure out who exactly it is – wait, it completely is.

    But as for the route tracing, we know that it works, so their opinion is very understandable. Recent news were really amazing on that part. Congratulations, while we’re at it! That’s great!

    The main reason why Europeans can’t accept an app like this is that the government so far has never given up on something they once introduced. “This data is only only for purpose X! – But when I think about it, that and that department also could use access…”
    Bad experiences, both old and new! But we also set great hopes in a more slim app.

    Europeans have seen far too many of our democracies mutate into totalitarian systems in the past. Those then heavily used/abused the data on their people that the previous peaceful democracies had collected. So that’s why we’re more sensitive there than let’s say the USA. We don’t take the current state for granted and fight against potential later regimes. It’s mostly not about “my own private data”, but about the large scale of things.

    The question is which rights are too central to society to endanger them in the long term, even now. The differences in the answer have been known before.

  36. The data will be used well for now. But criminals will try to get this data. Also a weird government like ccp could use the data to opress people.

  37. there is no real privacy with usage of smartphones and internet. Only very few people know that practically all apps, OS, all the data traffic is leaking like old oil pipes. That all data is collected, and sold to everyone whos interested for profit without your knowledge and without your consent.

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