House and Apartment Rental Do’s and Don’ts in the Philippines , Old Dog


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House and Apartment Rental Do’s and Don’ts in the Philippines , Old [email protected] in the Philippines Old Dog New Tricks I chat with Mark Thornton about how we found our current rentals, and some of the do’s and Don’ts when looking for a house or apartment in the Philippines

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  1. I stayed in a place in Bacolod City where there were two loud karaoke guys both playing very different, very loud stuff. I quickly learned in The Philippines, karaoke happens:)

  2. This is another tip / suggestion go to the Barangay office you want to live at and ask there if they know any home for rent leave your name and number. Then goto the next Barangay. You nailed it they won’t budge on there price and rather leave it empty

  3. Good advice I’m thinking a condo but I really cant say until I get there what island what town or city I dont have a clue I was thinking Cebu but who knows at this point

  4. The landlord is also important. My US debit card expired and I tried to get my US bank to send me a new one we went back & forth for close to two months on it. I ended up going 2 1/2 months with no access to my funds. When I sent it Western Union, they returned it back to the US after it set in limbo on hold. Then I resent it to myself again. I finally got it 2 more weeks later. I didn’t pay my rent for 2 mos. & the LL said she understood & paid our utilities for us. At the end she lent me 4K PHP The day I got it I paid her. I live with Filipinos not expats but with most LL s I would have been living on the streets even though I had money. My trailable Filipina GF that U always here about worked & took the money she had saved & kept us going. I guess she wasn’t after my $ s like some guys say they all are.

  5. This is why I will be moving to a condo complex. No need to worry about noise or roosters. In addition, at my age, I don’t want to have to maintain a house or have to install a gas generator.

  6. I hear a lot of people talking about scooters in the Philippines. What about e-bikes? (regular bicycles that offer pedal assist via a rechargeable battery) Are there many bike dealers there that sell electric bikes?

  7. I think negotiations are done better by your Filipina friend vs rich expat. I always stay hidden and let my wife do it. Even when getting a hotel room.

  8. Facebook marketplace ads in Philippines are a joke. Pictures of toilet bowls, vertical pictures, garbage cans etc. Nice country, nice people but no organization.

  9. We had an issue with noisy karaoke neighbors when we first moved into our rental home in Mactan which was quickly solved..Being singers ourselves and these neighbors being great people they invited us to join in.

  10. I think Thailand is loud. Soi dogs howling right after the 5AM temple bells. Then the advertising trucks with a load of Thai and one phrase you recognise “Phra na noi kapa nee so *MANCHESTAAAR*”. And my pal said, “Thailand is nothing like as loud as the Philippines!” 😂

  11. I’ve not dealt with that many Thai landladies, but something I’ve noticed – and pals agree – is that they do not want any trouble from the authorities. I get the impression that the courts must at the very least be unpredictable, and they might be fair. I wonder what other countries in the region are like. Pure prejudice on my part, but I can’t help but feel that Laos and Vietnam can’t be that great!

  12. Great video Paul. Very helpful. It would be interesting to hear both of your take on dealing with the noise there. I think that is huge to acclimating there. Your video looks really sharp, but your audio is soft and has some ambient static noise. Just an FYI.

  13. I’ve stayed many times in the Angeles city area. ( great deals) use a local rental agency. They tend to be more knowledgeable in what foreigners are looking/expecting to rent.

  14. Thanks for the information guys. A side note a bit too many ads for the length and volume was low, so when all the ads ran, it was a race to turn down the volume at least you get a 5 second warning 😁

  15. Some good points. I just wonder how you find these places or get stuff delivered if there are no address’s. I did notice that on my trips there that there might be a street name but no house numbers.

  16. I agree with you guys, rent from a foreigner if you can, you’ll probably get things fixed if something big goes wrong, and you’ll probably get your security deposit back. Please note the word “probably”.

    I’ve never gotten a security deposit back from a Filipino landlord, and I’ve never even heard of a Filipino landlord giving back a security deposit to a foreigner, although I’m sure it’s happened somewhere. My wife says that she has gotten security deposits back once in a while, but not often, but that was before she married a foreigner. And many Filipino landlords are MIA when the toilet stops working, so you pay to get it repaired, and when you ask the landlord to reimburse you for that, he/she tells you, “No, that is your responsibility, it is fixed now, enjoy your stay in my house.” And that’s the end of the conversation.

    I’m a U.S. national, and never had an American landlord in the Philippines, but I’ve had one in Germany, one in Canada and my current one is in Italy. Each one had/has a local older Filipina in-country they pay to collect the rent and act as sort of a property manager.

  17. Old Dog… enjoy your content.. thanks.. perhaps you have an additional adsense revenue stream.. you could create a new YouTube channel and stream Karaoke.. embrace the pain & get the hits.. 👊👍🙂

  18. The best way to get the karaoke guys to accommodate you is to befriend them by singing karaoke and having a beer or two with them once in a while. Then you can gently request for them to turn it down a little bit for you.

  19. Not knowing either of your financial situations … if you had, say, $600,000 in USA company stock…. and Social Security, would you remain where you are?

  20. Great advise and lessons learned. Both of you combined are a wealth of knowledge. Glad that is one topic I won’t be worried about when I finally move there.

  21. Hey Paul, another enjoyable “Shooting-the-Breeze” with your buddy Mark.
    I believe that the ‘rent-before-you-buy’ advice applies to anywhere you are moving to. The renting for about 3-6 months works out a list of pros-cons, wants-needs, budge vs location, etc.

  22. Hello Col. Paul and Mark. As Paul knows, I’ll not be renting if I can ever get over there. The gated sub-divison in Talisay is very quiet, except for children playing, but that’s only when it’s not school time. At night it’s very quiet. No traffic, no cocks crowing, no karoke, no loud parties.

    I’ll keep in mind the ATM card expiration advice. That might require an actual flight to Guam to pick up a new card at the post office every few years.

  23. No, why would there be an apostrophe in the word dos? Is it a contraction, meaning do is? Does the do own something making it possessive? Don’ts is a contraction meaning do nots. There is absolutely no reason for an apostrophe in the word dos.

  24. It only takes one person to ruin everything (loud music) or (barking dogs) all day and night. Moved into a place very quiet for the first 4 months. Then there son lost his job and moved his family 5 people = seven into his parents 2 bedroom home. Know one worked and they had no TV, but the boy brought their fan and of course his two large speakers with microphone. Tried to talk to them about the loud music, all they could say in English or Lao was (you know like leave)!

  25. As for the tale of person offering 12k for one year in advance on a rental priced at 15k. I don’t blame the landlord passing on giving a 20% discount.

  26. Your point about “covid pricing” is very true….when tourism opens up, expect everything to increase in cost. From Red Horse beer to your plane ticket, everything will go up.

  27. anywhere in phil there are problems with noisey music but if it’s a party i understand that you can complain to the local authorities that it’s a covid risk and they will shut it down ,or the cops will take their turn at the mic lol

  28. WHEN I LIVED IN CAMBODIA, I KEPT FINDING CRAPPY APT, SO I TOLD A TUK-TUK DRIVER IF HE FINDS ME A REALLY NICE PLACE TO LIVE I WOULD PAY HIM $50. HE FOUND ME A 5 BEDROOM 6 BATH 3 STORY HOUSE WITH SECURITY FOR $300 A MONTH. NOW I DO THIS IN EVERY COUNTRY I LIVE IN. MY FRIENDS, THERE WERE PAYING $1000 FOR SMALL CRAPPY PLACES. SO I HAD MY TUK TUK DRIVER TAKE MY FRIENDS AROUND AND HE FOUND THEM SOME REALLY NICE APT FOR $50.

  29. Ur buddy mark,(every man has sad story),
    So pathetic, no emotion. Never laugh or smile like u do. U enjoy life, and appreciate life. Mark is lifeless, playing off ur good nature. God bless u. Better man than me:)

  30. Am I the only one complaining about the volume? I crank it all the way up so I can barely hear, then the ads come on and blow my eardrums. Put on the old clip on mics.

  31. prices will go up? the question for me is how much demand for lodging will their be when the PH opens to foreign tourists? I could see the demand being really high…and pushing prices easily higher than pre-pandemic. OR…..I could see WEAK demand (people took a financial hit during the pandemic…..or found a country in south america they decided to call home) under which prices would still go up but would still be cheaper than pre-pandemic. I’ve took a major financial hit myself.

  32. After watching your videos for the first time, makes me think of a song that is sung in our church some times: (He’s a live) God is alive and well, still, with use through all these trouble times!

  33. I’m here in the US and living in a 300 unit condo complex. Dogs and coyote’s barking middle of the night, along with babies crying, loud music and parties are common disturbances. It all depends on who’s moving in and out of the complex. The piece de resistance was thefts in community mail boxes. It got so bad post office stopped delivering mail. So for 4 months I drove to post office everyday and waited in line 30 minutes to pickup mail. Finally the slower then molasses condo board resolved the issue and installed theft proof mailboxes! But it took 4 Fuckking months!!!! Opp’s, almost forgot to mention community water heaters always going down and plus piss poor water pressure. I expected more from units built in the 1990’s and completely rehabbed in 2006.

  34. Very interesting video this one and so important. One of the reasons I ultimately left Thailand after 4 years was that I could not take the noise from the Karioki guy over the back . This particular guy was a relative of my partner, was married with two beautiful young daughters and they were actually suffering from hearing loss damage due to his continual musical assault on the neighborhood. The music was actually being played from a truck that was often used for street processions and suchlike. The ‘music’ would often start at 10.00am and go on until 10.00pm!!. I had one near physical approach with him one day when I nearly cracked because of the noise . My partner’s house used to vibrate with the din though being 50 yards away thru the trees!!..Although I love Thailand, as I say there were issues which forced me to say enough is enough. Corruptive rising visa prices, health issues which sadly put me in hospital 3 times, and the decline of the Bhat value against the £ at the time. I still occasionally keep in contact with my ex, we hold no malice against each other though the issues were very tough to deal with at the time. I have since learnt that the noisy ‘boom boom’ karioki man has sadly been murdered in a bloody fued with his sweet uncle who lives next door to him and couldn’t take the noise any more despite years of protesting with his nephew. One day he cracked and the boom boom man was fatally stabbed in the final confrontation. That could have been me arguing with somebody who didn’t give a crap especially for a farang who ‘should not complain’….not being my home country. Sorry to bore you with this story but it’s true and now those two sweet young daughters no longer have a father and I hope that their hearing is not damaged beyond repair. Good advice from Paul and Mark here, check out the neighborhood before making that final decision, perhaps do a drive by at different times and speak to the neighbors about the local issues. Good luck to all, Tom from England

  35. NEVER PAY MORE THAN ONE MONTHS RENT IN ADVANCE NEVER GET A LEASE PAY YOUR RENT ON TIMEI ITS HIGHLY UNLIKELY TO KICK OUT A GOOD PAYER THERE’S PLENTY OF OPTIONS ANY CRAP FROM A LANDLORD OR NEIGHBOURS YOU CAN BAIL OUT FAST

  36. Salamat guys…much appreciated…hope i can meet you both when i can get back to Duma to meet my ldr gf…she is renting in Bacong for now …seems fairly quiet and near the ocean…i heard the rain on your video but otherwise sounded fine

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